MC: Oh, you warm my heart here. OK that works. So of all the changes you’ve made to our institution, what do you think is the most lasting contribution to the podcast?
DP: So the thing that I always find loving, and I have no credit for it except that I love we had the reunion that I think led to this, if I remember correctly, it was the recommendations thing that, in the end, everyone is just going to say something they like. It was your idea, I’m pretty sure, in “How can we structure this podcast a little bit more, conversation?” I’m pretty sure you were the one that said, “Let’s just end by recommending things we like.” And he’s still a listener now, it’s still a thing that I love, and I’ve found some weird books, TV shows, and apps, and Arielle is always sending people to new places to get theirs. horoscope, and that has always been one of my favorite parts of the show. It was fun to do when I was on the show, and it was really fun as a listener. I think that’s structurally what I liked the most.
AP: It’s quite a legacy. In fact, I would say that some listeners only come to the Gadget Lab podcast for recommendation. So a hell of a legacy.
DP: Again, I don’t get any credit for this. My job was literally what Mike described, I sat in a room once, I was like, “What if we just pay attention to this a little more for a second?” And then Mike had 50 great ideas, and now the podcast is awesome.
MC: I’m sure I groaned a lot. I’m sure I was like, “Oh my God, no, that just sounds like work.”
DP: Yes. There were a lot of them, especially at the beginning. And we’d be sitting there right before we started recording and you’re like, “Do we have to do all the intro loop stuff?” And that would be like, “Yeah, Mike, all you have to do is just say welcome to the Gadget Lab podcast, I’m Mike Calore,” and you’ll be like, “Alright.” And then that would be great every time.
MC: So you are in protocol now.
DP: I am indeed.
MC: Or as we call it, Techilitico.
DP: Techlitico, Polititech, Techlitico, everything is fair.
MC: Are you doing a podcast there?
DP: I do. It has taken many forms since I did it. One weird thing about podcasts is that they turn out to be a very different beast than most other formats. Learning how to make one has been a very interesting process, learning how to make one is a really interesting process. This has all been very strange, but I host a podcast, it’s called Source Code. It’s not as good as the Gadget Lab podcast, but we haven’t done 500 episodes yet, so I have a bit of time to catch up, but we’ll get there.
MC: You also do a newsletter, don’t you?
DP: I do.
MC: Everyday? Do you do it every day?
DP: Six days a week. I had someone when I was-
AP: It is so good.
DP: When I first signed up to write a newsletter, there was one person in the media who pulled me aside and said, which I always say to people who sign up to do a newsletter. daily newsletter is: “You have no idea how many days they are.” And I didn’t really know what that meant. And now there are 15 months of writing a newsletter every day, and there are just a lot of days.